Creativity cannot be computed

A presentation at Hello Stavanger in October 2025 in Stavanger, Norway by Hidde de Vries

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Creativity cannot be computed T HIDDE DE VRIES - HELLO S

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Hi, I’m Hidde 👏 Web standards at the Dutch government (like WCAG, WCAG-EM and EN 301 549) Advisory Board at W3C Blogger at hidde.blog Here in personal capacity

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I love computers

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but we tend to overestimate their power

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we tend to overestimate tech progress

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Creative Review, 21 September 2021

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we tend to overestimate computing

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while underestimating creative work

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“I th – Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, in interview with T i theverge.com/24253481/meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-ar-glasses-orion-ray-bans-ai-decoder-interview

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“Creat – Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI at WSJ T i youtube.com/watch?v=byYlC2cagLw

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“You can see Dall-E generate amaz – Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI at WSJ T i youtube.com/watch?v=byYlC2cagLw

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“Creat – Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI at WSJ T i youtube.com/watch?v=byYlC2cagLw

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i What

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Computing = manipulating numbers

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~2000 BC y Clay tablets in Babylonia (present-da

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~2000 BC Plimpton 322 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322

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Computing = manipulating numbers

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Computing = manipulating data

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Computing = completing tasks automatically

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Computing = throwing tech at something

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Charles Babbage

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Diagram with Note G Ada Lovelace

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“It i – Ada Lovelace, also in Note G

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hidde.blog/book-tip-turings-vision

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“AI was harder than we thought.” – John McCarthy (2006) From Melanie Mitchell’s presentation “Why AI is harder than we think”

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T T 1843 1933 1952-1955 2002 Compilers and COBOL First robotic vacuum cleaner 1965 2007 First software engineer on Apollo missions Invention of the iPhone

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2024 “AI will fix all of our problems”

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“It i – Ada Lovelace, in her notes

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i Creat

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Creativity = problem solving Old-school hacking Sunsetting products Election security Looking beyond the AI hype

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T Video for “Manon” by De Jeugd van egenwoordig

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choices

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Immanuel Kant: the ability to produce works that are not only “or g nal”—since “there can be original nonsense” —but also “exemplary” i i plato.stanford.edu/entries/creativity

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Boden’s three types of creativity i i Comb Exploratory Transformat

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Boden’s three types of creativity Comb Exploratory Transformat i i Espresso tonic, Rotterdam (2022)

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Boden’s three types of creativity Comb Exploratory Transformat i T i Herbie Hancock + band in oronto (2024)

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Comb Exploratory Transformat i he steam engine i T Boden’s three types of creativity

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Boden’s three types of creativity Comb Exploratory Transformat i i Quincy Jones

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Creativity Art Design Aesthetics

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Creativity is it new & interesting ?

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Creativity is it new & interesting ? Design does it function?

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Creativity is it new & interesting ? Design Aesthetics s i h t is ? l u f i t u a be does it function?

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Creativity Art Design Aesthetics is it new & interesting ? what makes it art? s i h t is ? l u f i t u a be does it function?

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Creativity Art

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Entertainment

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What is art? Films, books, paintings, poetry, photography, music, sculpture, performances, plays, operas, street art, comedy, literature, video games, some of your toots.

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Art isn’t always easy to recognise

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“All the good times we spent together” by Alexandre Lavet (2016).

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“Fountain” by Marcel Duchamp (1917).

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T “Peanut butter platform” by Wim . Schippers (1969).

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Art is legitimised

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Art is legitimised Artist puts it out “as art” Audience wants to pay for it Institutions want to display it

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Art has critics

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Art has critics Well executed Original / creative Great ideas/concepts Clichéd Captivating Stunning

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Art is appreciated conditionally

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You and me baby ain’t nothin’ but mammals

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So let’s do it like they do on the Discovery Channel

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Appreciating art Personal experiences Knowledge of context in history Knowledge of artist Descriptions Prerequisites (like language)

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Appreciation is a continuum read artist’s biography no context gone through similar struggle art historian specialised in this genre

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Art is repeated

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T Scene from La raviata at the Metropolitan Opera in New York

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Still from music video of Portishead’s version of “SOS” by ABBA

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Art is repeated

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David Hockney Portrait of an Artist (Pool with two figures)

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Art is repeated

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Art is repeated

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Art may contain intentions

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Students interview artist Geoffrey Chadsey tang.skidmore.edu/collection/explore/202-shifting-poses

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laurents.art on Instagram Künstler/in 👦🖌🎨 3 Years old 🇩🇪

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choices

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repeats/ reimagined critics legitimisation Art is fuzzy intentions (maybe) appreciation

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What can art do?

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Art can make the artist think

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Artists process life through their art

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Art can also make the audience think

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Art can show us futures we should not want

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Art can capture the political zeitgeist

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Art can show us what’s wrong in reality

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Art can show us a mirror to reflect

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De Zaak Shell, Bureau Vergezicht (2024)

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Devolved Parliament, by Banksy

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Details from “Devolved Parliament” by Banksy, copyright graffiitstreet.com

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Konzerthaus columns covered with 14,000 discarded life vests (2016) . Photo copyright Clemens Bilan / Getty Images

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T Paul McCartney singing “Yesterday” in New York (1965) . Still from You ube.

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T T Adele singing “Someone like you” at iny Desk (2011) . Still from You ube.

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Photo of Ai Weiwei’s S.A.C.R.E.D. installation (2013) .

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Art can be used to show solidarity Led by Donkeys paint the Ukranian flag a year after the Russian invasion (2023)

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Marvin Gaye singing “What’s going on”.

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Still from video of “Alright” by Kendrick Lamar.

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T Kendrick Lamar performing on top of a police car at BE awards (2015)

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Me be – Kendrick Lamar, in interview with i T tmz.com/2015/07/02/kendrick-lamar-responds-alright-geraldo-rivera-bet-awards-controversy-tmz-live/

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Me be – Kendrick Lamar, in interview with T i tmz.com/2015/07/02/kendrick-lamar-responds-alright-geraldo-rivera-bet-awards-controversy-tmz-live/

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Vincent van Gogh’s Sunflowers (1888). Activists throw a can of tomato soup on the work at National Portrait Gallery (2022).

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What it is like to love

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I don’t believe that anybody feels the way I do about you now

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You are / my fire / the one / I desire

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What it is like to try and understand other people

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What it’s like to be fed up with the status quo IJSLAND at Melkweg, Amsterdam

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What it’s like to be young

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Guernica by Pablo Picasso (1937)

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Bebelplatz / Opernplatz, Berlin (Wikipedia)

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T “ he Empty Library” by Micha Ullman (Wikipedia)

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AI i – Oliver Reichenstein, “AI and the end of writing”

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AI i – Oliver Reichenstein, “AI and the end of writing”

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Art can insult the audience

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“In and Out of Love (White Paintings and Live Butterflies)”) by Damien Hirst

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Mistakes in art can be beautiful

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Art can make us think Art can move us Art can take a stance Art can support a movement Art can capture complex human human experiences Art can record collective memories

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Art can make us think Art can move us l l a l a n o t p o Art can take a stance Art can support a movement Art can capture complex human human experiences i Art can record collective memories

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the point isn’t always the art itself

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The art intention reflection research skill i world view art

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The art voice life experience talent background i culture art

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The aud i art shared experiences

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“Pop mus i — Mat Dryhurst

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The aud emotion art reflection empathy understanding i inspiration

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an artwork before making / after releasing Source: Wikipedia (Iceberg)

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Net als altijd gingen we naar de eetzaal en Meaning is in between the lines aten ons avondeten. We gingen in bad. Daarna maakten we een es goede wijn open die ik voor een speciale gelegenheid had bewaard. We dronken er samen van en ik speelde gitaar. Haar gebruikelijke favorieten van de Beatles zoals “Nor wegian Wood” en”Michelle”. Het was heel gezellig. We deden het licht uit, we kleedden ons uit en kropen in bed. Het was een heel warme nacht en zelfs met het raam fl open kwam er geen zuchtje wind naar binnen.

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can computers have intention skills reflection experiences research a world view ?

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Computers are often part of the toolset to make artifacts. T T Still from “What is echno?” by 343 Labs on You ube

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“It’s a tool.” – Mira Murati, (then) C T youtu.be/yUoj9B8OpR8

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i Open quest

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Environmental impact

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Environmental impact Copyright infringement

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Environmental impact Copyright infringement

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Environmental impact Copyright infringement Vector for abuse

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Environmental impact Copyright infringement Vector for abuse Not open

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Environmental impact Copyright infringement Vector for abuse Not open Risk of dullness

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Risk of dullness

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i Creat

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i Art is as much about the art

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i Art is much more than an art

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“It i – Ada Lovelace, in her notes

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We can use computers to express ourselves creatively

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But making creative work is about process, intentions and creativity.

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But making creative work is about process, intentions and creativity. Not the output or tools.

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I love computers

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but they don’t use creativity in the way artists can

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Make art

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Enjoy art

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Slides + links are live on h i T Thank you!

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tante, On “AI” Art https://tante.cc/2024/09/06/on-ai-art/ SEP, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/art-definition/ Ada Lovelace https://computerhistory.org/blog/ada-lovelace-day/ National Geographic, “ program” https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/history-magazine/ article/this-countess-of-computing-wrote-the-first-computer-program https:// raysolomonoff.com/dartmouth/boxa/dart564props.pdf T Review of one of Boden’s books https://anyoldmusic.com/creativity-and-artbook/ T T Links

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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/ archive/2024/07/generative-ai-music-suno-udio/679114/ Li Jin, “‘Pop Music Is a Promise Can and Can’t Do” https://variant.fund/articles/pop-music-ai-holly-herndonmat-dryhurst/ T Melanie Mitchell, “Why AI is Harder T T Links

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Dorothy K. Stein, “Lady Lovelace’s Notes: Victorian Studies, Vol. 28, No. 1 (1984), 33-67. https://www.jstor.org/stable/ 3826758 L.F. Menabrea, “Sketch of the Analytical Engine Invented by Charles Babbage”, Scientific Memoirs, 3 (1843), With notes upon the Memoir by the Margaret A. Boden, “Creativity and artificial intelligence”, Artificial Intelligence, Volume 103, Issues 1–2 (1998), 347-356, T T Articles

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Books Du Sautoy, The Creativity Code. Boden, Creativity and art (2010). Hofstadter, Fluid Concepts and Creative Analogies: Computer Models Of The Fundamental Mechanisms Of Thought (2008).